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== 2600 Games with Issues == | |||
Although the Atari 7800 was designed to be backwards compatible with all Atari 2600 games, in actuality there are some 2600 games which will not boot or function properly on certain revisions of the 7800 hardware. Earlier consoles from the initial 1984 run and shipped during 1986 (consoles with an expansion port) seem to have the least issues, with later consoles having more problems. Listed below are some of the 2600 games which are known to have compatibility problems on later versions of the 7800. | |||
* All Tigervision games are incompatible with all 7800s due to the dust cover posts poking out too far, preventing the game PCB from actually making contact with the cartridge port | |||
* Arcadia Supercharger add-on games | |||
* ''Robot Tank'' | |||
* ''Space Shuttle'' | |||
* ''The Activision Decathlon'' | |||
Many of these incompatibilities can be fixed by removing a capacitor which forms part of a timing circuit, which was added to the system's motherboard during 1987. Removing this capacitor may also break compatibility with a few other 2600 games, namely ''Dark Chambers'' and ''Kung-Fu Master''. Both of these games in particular have (arguably superior) ports on the 7800 however. | |||
== PAL Games with Issues on NTSC 7800 == | == PAL Games with Issues on NTSC 7800 == | ||
Note that the BIOS on NTSC 7800 consoles must be replaced with a different one that does not perform the encryption check, otherwise no PAL games will even boot. This issue does not apply to flash carts such as the Concerto as they clear the encryption check. | Note that the BIOS on NTSC 7800 consoles must be replaced with a different one that does not perform the encryption check, otherwise no PAL games will even boot. This issue does not apply to flash carts such as the Concerto as they clear the encryption check. | ||
Also note that most PAL games will have the screen shifted down as they were reprogrammed to take advantage of the extra resolution PAL offers over NTSC. Some games that function correctly may also have slightly different colors due to the NTSC and PAL MARIA graphics chips having different color palettes. | Also note that most PAL games will have the screen shifted down as they were reprogrammed to take advantage of the extra resolution PAL offers over NTSC. Some games that function correctly may also have slightly different colors due to the NTSC and PAL MARIA graphics chips having different color palettes. | ||
These games were tested on a 1984-built NTSC 7800 using a Concerto flash cart. | |||
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|Impossible Mission | |Impossible Mission | ||
|Flickering colors, crashes to black screen when entering a room | |Flickering colors, crashes to black screen when entering a room | ||
|Unplayable | |Unplayable | ||
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|Unplayable | |Unplayable | ||
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|Ms. Pac-Man | |||
|Screen is extremely jumpy, plays too slow | |||
|Severe | |||
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|Ninja Golf | |||
|Severe graphical corruption during gameplay | |||
|Severe, almost unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|One-on-One Basketball | |||
|Flickering colors on game selection screen | |||
|Minor | |||
|- | |||
|Planet Smashers | |||
|No issues other than the screen being shifted down | |||
|Minor | |||
|- | |||
|Pole Position II | |||
|Flickering background, plays too slow | |||
|Minor | |||
|- | |||
|Scrapyard Dog | |||
|Crashes when gameplay begins | |||
|Unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|Sentinel | |||
|Corrupted graphics, flickering background (could not test further due to lack of light gun) | |||
|? | |||
|- | |||
|Super Huey UH-IX | |||
|No issues other than the screen being shifted down | |||
|Minor | |||
|- | |||
|Super Skateboardin' | |||
|Flickering background, plays too slow | |||
|Moderate | |||
|- | |||
|Title Match Pro Wrestling | |||
|No sound | |||
|Moderate | |||
|- | |||
|Tomcat: The F-14 Fighter Simulator | |||
|Flickering background, corrupted graphics on carrier, crashes when plane takes off | |||
|Unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|Tower Toppler | |||
|Boots to black screen | |||
|Unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|Xenophobe | |||
|Crashes at title screen | |||
|Unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|Xevious | |||
|Graphical glitching at top of screen, uneven frame rate | |||
|Moderate | |||
|} | |} | ||
== NTSC Games with Issues on PAL 7800 == | == NTSC Games with Issues on PAL 7800 == | ||
All NTSC games have some graphical glitches on the botttom of the screen due to the higher resolution of the PAL MARIA. Some games that function correctly may also have slightly different colors due to the NTSC and PAL MARIA graphics chips having different color palettes. | |||
These games were tested on a 1991-built PAL 7800 using a RetroHQ 7800GD flash cart. | |||
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!Game Title | |||
!Issue | |||
!Severity | |||
|- | |||
|Ace of Aces | |||
|Rapidly flickering on the title screen and during gameplay | |||
|Unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|Asteroids | |||
|Runs way too fast to be playable and has some graphical glitches mid-screen at times | |||
|Unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|Ballblazer | |||
|Some graphical glitching on the top screen. Runs for a bit but crashes randomly | |||
|Unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|Donkey Kong | |||
|Runs way too fast to be playable | |||
|Unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|Donkey Kong Junior | |||
|Runs way too fast to be playable | |||
|Unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|Double Dragon | |||
|Crashes to black screen after the title screen | |||
|Unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|Mario Bros. | |||
|Runs way too fast to be playable | |||
|Unplayable | |||
|- | |||
|Pole Position II | |||
|Flickering background, plays too slow | |||
|Minor | |||
|} | |||
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Latest revision as of 18:55, 29 February 2024
2600 Games with Issues
Although the Atari 7800 was designed to be backwards compatible with all Atari 2600 games, in actuality there are some 2600 games which will not boot or function properly on certain revisions of the 7800 hardware. Earlier consoles from the initial 1984 run and shipped during 1986 (consoles with an expansion port) seem to have the least issues, with later consoles having more problems. Listed below are some of the 2600 games which are known to have compatibility problems on later versions of the 7800.
- All Tigervision games are incompatible with all 7800s due to the dust cover posts poking out too far, preventing the game PCB from actually making contact with the cartridge port
- Arcadia Supercharger add-on games
- Robot Tank
- Space Shuttle
- The Activision Decathlon
Many of these incompatibilities can be fixed by removing a capacitor which forms part of a timing circuit, which was added to the system's motherboard during 1987. Removing this capacitor may also break compatibility with a few other 2600 games, namely Dark Chambers and Kung-Fu Master. Both of these games in particular have (arguably superior) ports on the 7800 however.
PAL Games with Issues on NTSC 7800
Note that the BIOS on NTSC 7800 consoles must be replaced with a different one that does not perform the encryption check, otherwise no PAL games will even boot. This issue does not apply to flash carts such as the Concerto as they clear the encryption check.
Also note that most PAL games will have the screen shifted down as they were reprogrammed to take advantage of the extra resolution PAL offers over NTSC. Some games that function correctly may also have slightly different colors due to the NTSC and PAL MARIA graphics chips having different color palettes.
These games were tested on a 1984-built NTSC 7800 using a Concerto flash cart.
Game Title | Issue | Severity |
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Ace of Aces | Rapidly flickering title screen, major graphical glitching during gameplay | Unplayable |
Alien Brigade | Resets every few seconds on title screen | Unplayable |
Ballblazer | Major graphical glitching, runs too slow | Severe |
Barnyard Blaster | (No further testing performed due to lack of light gun) | ? |
Baseball | Entire screen flickers | Severe |
Basketbrawl | No sound on title screen, plays too slow, major graphical glitching during gameplay | Severe |
Centipede | Plays too slow | Moderate |
Choplifter | Plays too slow, flickering colors during gameplay | Severe |
Commando | Crashes to black screen after title screen | Unplayable |
Crack'ed | Flickering colors during gameplay | Moderate |
Crossbow | No issues other than the screen being shifted down | Minor |
Dark Chambers | Graphical glitching when scrolling vertically | Moderate |
Desert Falcon | Plays too slow, major graphical glitching | Severe |
Dig Dug | Sound is too fast, gameplay is too slow, top half of screen flickers | Moderate |
Donkey Kong | No issues other than the screen being shifted down | Minor |
Donkey Kong Junior | No issues other than the screen being shifted down | Minor |
Double Dragon | Boots to black screen | Unplayable |
F-18 Hornet | Boots to vertical colored bars and droning sound | Unplayable |
Fatal Run | Sound is too fast, flashing colors and major graphical corruption | Severe |
Fight Night | Flickering colors, crashes when gameplay begins | Unplayable |
Food Fight | Flickering graphical glitching, plays too slow | Moderate |
Galaga | No issues other than the screen being shifted down | Minor |
Hat Trick | No issues | N/A |
Ikari Warriors | Flickering graphical corruption, plays far too slow | Severe |
Impossible Mission | Flickering colors, crashes to black screen when entering a room | Unplayable |
Jinks | Sound samples on title screen are just random noise, major graphical corruption | Severe |
Joust | Crashes immediately, only displays copyright info on title screen | Unplayable |
Karateka | Boots to black screen | Unplayable |
Kung-Fu Master | Crashes to screen with corrupted graphics after title screen | Unplayable |
Mario Bros. | No issues other than the screen being shifted down | Minor |
Mat Mania Challenge | Corrupted title screen, droning sound during gameplay | Moderate |
Mean 18 Ultimate Golf | Graphical corruption when anything moves, glitched sound | Moderate |
Meltdown | Sound is too fast (No further testing done due to lack of light gun) | ? |
Midnight Mutants | No issues other than the screen being shifted down | Minor |
Motor Psycho | Boots to black screen | Unplayable |
Ms. Pac-Man | Screen is extremely jumpy, plays too slow | Severe |
Ninja Golf | Severe graphical corruption during gameplay | Severe, almost unplayable |
One-on-One Basketball | Flickering colors on game selection screen | Minor |
Planet Smashers | No issues other than the screen being shifted down | Minor |
Pole Position II | Flickering background, plays too slow | Minor |
Scrapyard Dog | Crashes when gameplay begins | Unplayable |
Sentinel | Corrupted graphics, flickering background (could not test further due to lack of light gun) | ? |
Super Huey UH-IX | No issues other than the screen being shifted down | Minor |
Super Skateboardin' | Flickering background, plays too slow | Moderate |
Title Match Pro Wrestling | No sound | Moderate |
Tomcat: The F-14 Fighter Simulator | Flickering background, corrupted graphics on carrier, crashes when plane takes off | Unplayable |
Tower Toppler | Boots to black screen | Unplayable |
Xenophobe | Crashes at title screen | Unplayable |
Xevious | Graphical glitching at top of screen, uneven frame rate | Moderate |
NTSC Games with Issues on PAL 7800
All NTSC games have some graphical glitches on the botttom of the screen due to the higher resolution of the PAL MARIA. Some games that function correctly may also have slightly different colors due to the NTSC and PAL MARIA graphics chips having different color palettes.
These games were tested on a 1991-built PAL 7800 using a RetroHQ 7800GD flash cart.
Game Title | Issue | Severity |
---|---|---|
Ace of Aces | Rapidly flickering on the title screen and during gameplay | Unplayable |
Asteroids | Runs way too fast to be playable and has some graphical glitches mid-screen at times | Unplayable |
Ballblazer | Some graphical glitching on the top screen. Runs for a bit but crashes randomly | Unplayable |
Donkey Kong | Runs way too fast to be playable | Unplayable |
Donkey Kong Junior | Runs way too fast to be playable | Unplayable |
Double Dragon | Crashes to black screen after the title screen | Unplayable |
Mario Bros. | Runs way too fast to be playable | Unplayable |
Pole Position II | Flickering background, plays too slow | Minor |