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These are my futile attempts to burn patched/homebrew ISOs to CD-R to play on my Turbo Duo. Pressed discs read perfectly fine.
These are my futile attempts to burn patched/homebrew ISOs to CD-R to play on my Turbo Duo. Pressed discs read perfectly fine. I should open an Etsy that sells CD-R coasters.
 
Graphs made using Nero DiscSpeed (Disc Quality tab).


== Media ==
== Media ==
Info from Nero DiscSpeed (Disc Info tab).


* TY Media:
* CMC Pro (Taiyo Yuden TCDR-ZZ-SB):
** Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden
** Disc ID: 97m24s01f
** Min speed 16x
** Min speed 16x
** Capacity 700MB
** Supported Write Speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x
* Maxell Gold
** Disc ID: 97m31s01f
** Manufacturer: Ritek Co.
** Capacity: 650MB / 74 min
** Supported Write Speeds: 16x (disc packaging says 1x-8x; likely no Write Strategy available for my drives)
* Verbatim
** Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics
** Disc ID: 97m26s66f
** Supported write speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x
** Capacity: 700MB
== Media Reflectivity ==
Note the strength of contrast between the burnt vs unburn areas on the disc.
<div class="inline-thumb">
[[File:Pressed Disc.jpg|thumb|Pressed disc - Very strong contrast]] [[File:CMC Pro TCDR-ZZ-SB (Taiyo Yuden) CD-R.jpg|thumb|CMC Pro (Taiyo Yuden) - Strong contrast]] [[File:Maxell Gold CD-R.jpg|thumb|Maxell Gold - Strong contrast]] [[File:Verbatim CD-R.jpg|thumb|Verbatim - Weak contrast]]
</div>
[[File:CD-R Reflectivity Comparison.jpg|1285px]]
== Burn Quality ==
Information pulled from Nero DiscSpeed (Disc Quality tab) sorted from best to worst burns.


== Pressed Disc: Rising Sun ==
=== Pressed Disc: Rising Sun ===


[[File:DiscQuality - Rising Sun.png|thumb|left|Pressed disc]]
[[File:DiscQuality - Rising Sun.png|thumb|left|Pressed disc]]
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== Space Ava 201 ==
=== Space Ava 201 ===


<div class="inline-thumb">
<div class="inline-thumb">
[[File:W-BR TY ImgBurn Fast.png|thumb|left|Blu-ray burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]] [[File:W-BR VB ImgBurn Fast.png|thumb|left|Blu-ray burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY ImgBurn 8x.png|thumb|left|iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 8x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY ImgBurn 16x.png|thumb|left|iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 16x speed]]
[[File:W-iHas TY ImgBurn 16x.png|thumb|left|iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 16x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY ImgBurn 8x.png|thumb|left|iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 8x speed]] [[File:W-BR TY ImgBurn Fast.png|thumb|left|LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]] [[File:W-BR VB ImgBurn Fast.png|thumb|left|LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]]  
</div>
</div>


== Rondo of Blood (English Patch) ==
=== Rondo of Blood (English Patch) ===


==== Disc Quality Scan using Optiarc ====
Verdict: This drive resulted in many more errors than the iHAS even when using the same disc, so it likely has a dying laser.
<div class="inline-thumb">
<div class="inline-thumb">
[[File:W-BR TY ImgBurn.png|thumb|left|Blu-ray burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]] [[File:W-BR TY PCE.png|thumb|left|Blu-ray burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting]]  
[[File:W-BR TY ImgBurn.png|thumb|left|LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]] [[File:W-BR TY PCE.png|thumb|left|LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting]]  
[[File:W-BR TY RAW DAO.png|thumb|Blu-ray burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, RAW DAO setting]] [[File:W-iHas Maxell Gold ImgBurn 16x.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Maxell Gold 650MB 74 min, ImgBurn, 16x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY 16x.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 16x speed]]
[[File:W-BR TY RAW DAO.png|thumb|LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, RAW DAO setting]] [[File:W-Optiarc TY Non-DAO.png|thumb|Optiarc AD-7200S burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]]
</div>
</div>
==== Disc Quality Scan using iHAS ====


<div class="inline-thumb">
<div class="inline-thumb">
[[File:W-iHas TY Nero 16X.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Nero, 16x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO 32X.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 32x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO Fast.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO Slow.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 8x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY PCE New-FW.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner (AL0S firmware), Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting]]
[[File:W-iHas TY PCE.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting]] [[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO 32X.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 32x speed]][[File:W-iHas TY ImgBurn OPC 32x.png|thumb|iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, OPC enabled, 32x speed]][[File:W-iHas TY 16x.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 16x speed]][[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO Slow.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 8x speed]]</div>
</div>
 
<div class="inline-thumb">[[File:W-iHas TY PCE New-FW.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner (AL0S firmware), Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting]]
[[File:W-iHas TY Nero 16X.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Nero, 16x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO Fast.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]] [[File:W-iHas VB Non-DAO Slow.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Verbatim, ImgBurn, 8x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY RAW DAO.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, RAW DAO setting]]</div>


<div class="inline-thumb">
<div class="inline-thumb">[[File:W-iHas Maxell Gold ImgBurn 16x.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Maxell Gold 650MB 74 min, ImgBurn, 16x speed]]</div>
[[File:W-iHas TY PCE.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting]] [[File:W-iHas TY RAW DAO.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, RAW DAO setting]] [[File:W-iHas VB Non-DAO Slow.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Verbatim, ImgBurn, 8x speed]] [[File:W-Optiarc TY Non-DAO.png|thumb|Optiarc AD-7200S burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]]
</div>


== Lessons Learned ==
== Lessons Learned ==


* Check what the minimum and maximum speed that the media reports, and burn at the minimum supported.
* Check what the minimum and maximum speed that the media (disc) reports, and burn at the minimum the media (NOT DRIVE) supports.
* Cross-check Disc Quality scans with multiple drives to make sure the drive isn't the issue. The optiarc here appears to be bad.

Revision as of 03:08, 1 June 2024

These are my futile attempts to burn patched/homebrew ISOs to CD-R to play on my Turbo Duo. Pressed discs read perfectly fine. I should open an Etsy that sells CD-R coasters.

Media

Info from Nero DiscSpeed (Disc Info tab).

  • CMC Pro (Taiyo Yuden TCDR-ZZ-SB):
    • Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden
    • Disc ID: 97m24s01f
    • Min speed 16x
    • Capacity 700MB
    • Supported Write Speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x
  • Maxell Gold
    • Disc ID: 97m31s01f
    • Manufacturer: Ritek Co.
    • Capacity: 650MB / 74 min
    • Supported Write Speeds: 16x (disc packaging says 1x-8x; likely no Write Strategy available for my drives)
  • Verbatim
    • Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics
    • Disc ID: 97m26s66f
    • Supported write speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x
    • Capacity: 700MB

Media Reflectivity

Note the strength of contrast between the burnt vs unburn areas on the disc.

Pressed disc - Very strong contrast
CMC Pro (Taiyo Yuden) - Strong contrast
Maxell Gold - Strong contrast
Verbatim - Weak contrast

CD-R Reflectivity Comparison.jpg

Burn Quality

Information pulled from Nero DiscSpeed (Disc Quality tab) sorted from best to worst burns.

Pressed Disc: Rising Sun

Pressed disc


Space Ava 201

iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 16x speed
iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 8x speed
LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed
LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed

Rondo of Blood (English Patch)

Disc Quality Scan using Optiarc

Verdict: This drive resulted in many more errors than the iHAS even when using the same disc, so it likely has a dying laser.

LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed
LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting
LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, RAW DAO setting
Optiarc AD-7200S burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed

Disc Quality Scan using iHAS

iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 32x speed
iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, OPC enabled, 32x speed
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 16x speed
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 8x speed
iHAS 124B burner (AL0S firmware), Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Nero, 16x speed
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed
iHAS 124B burner, Verbatim, ImgBurn, 8x speed
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, RAW DAO setting
iHAS 124B burner, Maxell Gold 650MB 74 min, ImgBurn, 16x speed

Lessons Learned

  • Check what the minimum and maximum speed that the media (disc) reports, and burn at the minimum the media (NOT DRIVE) supports.
  • Cross-check Disc Quality scans with multiple drives to make sure the drive isn't the issue. The optiarc here appears to be bad.
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