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[[File:Pressed Disc.jpg|thumb|Pressed disc - Very strong contrast]] [[File:CMC Pro TCDR-ZZ-SB (Taiyo Yuden) CD-R.jpg|thumb|CMC Pro (Taiyo Yuden) - Strong contrast]] [[File:Maxell Gold CD-R.jpg|thumb|Maxell Gold - Strong contrast]] [[File:Verbatim CD-R.jpg|thumb|Verbatim - Weak contrast]]
[[File:Pressed Disc.jpg|thumb|Pressed disc - Very strong contrast]] [[File:CMC Pro TCDR-ZZ-SB (Taiyo Yuden) CD-R.jpg|thumb|CMC Pro (Taiyo Yuden) - Strong contrast]] [[File:Maxell Gold CD-R.jpg|thumb|Maxell Gold - Strong contrast]] [[File:Verbatim CD-R.jpg|thumb|Verbatim - Weak contrast]]
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Below are scans of the same discs. Oddly, the pressed disc shows almost no contrast in a direct scan.
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[[File:Disc Scan - Pressed Disc.jpg|thumb|Pressed disc]] [[File:Disc Scan - Taiyo Yuden.jpg|thumb|CMC Pro (Taiyo Yuden)]] [[File:Disc Scan - Maxell Gold.jpg|thumb|Maxell Gold]] [[File:Disc Scan - Verbatim.jpg|thumb|Verbatim]] [[File:Disc Scan - Taiyo Yuden Wavy.jpg|thumb|Taiyo Yuden with delaminiation issue]]
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[[File:W-iHas TY PCE.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting]] [[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO 32X.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 32x speed]][[File:W-iHas TY ImgBurn OPC 32x.png|thumb|iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, OPC enabled, 32x speed]][[File:W-iHas TY 16x.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 16x speed]][[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO Slow.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 8x speed]]</div>
[[File:W-Benq Maxell PCE 4x.png|thumb|BenQ CRW4012P burner, Maxell Gold, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting, 4X speed]]
[[File:W-iHas TY PCE.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting]] [[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO 32X.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 32x speed]][[File:W-iHas TY ImgBurn OPC 32x.png|thumb|iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, OPC enabled, 32x speed]][[File:W-iHas TY 16x.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 16x speed]]</div>
 
<div class="inline-thumb">[[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO Slow.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 8x speed]][[File:W-Benq TY PCE.png|thumb|BenQ CRW4012P burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting]][[File:W-iHas TY PCE New-FW.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner (AL0S firmware), Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting]]
[[File:W-iHas TY Nero 16X.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Nero, 16x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO Fast.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]]</div>


<div class="inline-thumb">[[File:W-iHas TY PCE New-FW.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner (AL0S firmware), Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting]]
<div class="inline-thumb">[[File:W-Benq TY 4X.png|thumb|BenQ CRW4012P burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 4X speed]][[File:W-iHas VB Non-DAO Slow.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Verbatim, ImgBurn, 8x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY RAW DAO.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, RAW DAO setting]] [[File:W-Benq TY 4X Wavy.png|thumb|BenQ CRW4012P burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 4X speed (delamination issue)]] [[File:W-iHas Maxell Gold ImgBurn 16x.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Maxell Gold 650MB 74 min, ImgBurn, 16x speed]]</div>
[[File:W-iHas TY Nero 16X.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Nero, 16x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY Non-DAO Fast.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed]] [[File:W-iHas VB Non-DAO Slow.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Verbatim, ImgBurn, 8x speed]] [[File:W-iHas TY RAW DAO.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, RAW DAO setting]]</div>


<div class="inline-thumb">[[File:W-iHas Maxell Gold ImgBurn 16x.png|thumb|iHAS 124B burner, Maxell Gold 650MB 74 min, ImgBurn, 16x speed]]</div>


==== Disc Quality Scan using Optiarc ====
====Disc Quality Scan using Optiarc====
Verdict: This drive resulted in many more errors than the iHAS even when using the same disc, so it likely has a dying laser.
Verdict: This drive resulted in many more errors than the iHAS even when using the same disc, so it likely has a dying laser.
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==== Disc Quality Scan using BENQ ====
====Disc Quality Scan using BENQ====
All scans failed with "ILLEGAL MODE FOR THIS TRACK (056400)" error on any discs burned by the BENQ itself, discs burned by other drives, or pressed discs.
All scans failed with "ILLEGAL MODE FOR THIS TRACK (056400)" error on any discs burned by the BENQ itself, discs burned by other drives, or pressed discs despite burning discs well.


== Lessons Learned ==
==Lessons Learned==


* Check what the minimum and maximum speed that the media (disc) reports, and burn at the minimum the media (NOT DRIVE) supports.
*Check what the minimum and maximum speed that the media (disc) reports, and burn at the minimum the media (NOT DRIVE) supports.
* Cross-check Disc Quality scans with multiple drives to make sure the drive isn't the issue. The optiarc here appears to be bad.
*Cross-check Disc Quality scans with multiple drives to make sure the drive isn't the issue. The optiarc here appears to be bad.

Revision as of 06:03, 23 June 2024

These are my futile attempts to burn patched/homebrew ISOs to CD-R to play on my Turbo Duo. Pressed discs read perfectly fine. I should open an Etsy that sells CD-R coasters.

Media

Info from Nero DiscSpeed (Disc Info tab).

  • CMC Pro (Taiyo Yuden TCDR-ZZ-SB):
    • Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden
    • Disc ID: 97m24s01f
    • Min speed 16x
    • Capacity 700MB
    • Supported Write Speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x
  • Maxell Gold
    • Disc ID: 97m31s01f
    • Manufacturer: Ritek Co.
    • Capacity: 650MB / 74 min
    • Supported Write Speeds: 16x (disc packaging says 1x-8x; likely no Write Strategy available for my drives)
  • Verbatim
    • Manufacturer: CMC Magnetics
    • Disc ID: 97m26s66f
    • Supported write speeds: 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x
    • Capacity: 700MB

Media Reflectivity

Note the strength of contrast between the burnt vs unburn areas on the disc.

Pressed disc - Very strong contrast
CMC Pro (Taiyo Yuden) - Strong contrast
Maxell Gold - Strong contrast
Verbatim - Weak contrast

Below are scans of the same discs. Oddly, the pressed disc shows almost no contrast in a direct scan.

Pressed disc
CMC Pro (Taiyo Yuden)
Maxell Gold
Verbatim
Taiyo Yuden with delaminiation issue

CD-R Reflectivity Comparison.jpg

Burn Quality

Information pulled from Nero DiscSpeed (Disc Quality tab) sorted from best to worst burns.

Pressed Disc: Rising Sun

Pressed disc


Space Ava 201

iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 16x speed
iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 8x speed
LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed
LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed

Rondo of Blood (English Patch)

Disc Quality Scan using iHAS

BenQ CRW4012P burner, Maxell Gold, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting, 4X speed
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 32x speed
iHas 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, OPC enabled, 32x speed
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 16x speed
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 8x speed
BenQ CRW4012P burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting
iHAS 124B burner (AL0S firmware), Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Nero, 16x speed
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed
BenQ CRW4012P burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 4X speed
iHAS 124B burner, Verbatim, ImgBurn, 8x speed
iHAS 124B burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, RAW DAO setting
BenQ CRW4012P burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, 4X speed (delamination issue)
iHAS 124B burner, Maxell Gold 650MB 74 min, ImgBurn, 16x speed


Disc Quality Scan using Optiarc

Verdict: This drive resulted in many more errors than the iHAS even when using the same disc, so it likely has a dying laser.

LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed
LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, PC Engine setting
LG WH12LS30 BD burner, Taiyo Yuden, Alcohol 120, RAW DAO setting
Optiarc AD-7200S burner, Taiyo Yuden, ImgBurn, max speed

Disc Quality Scan using BENQ

All scans failed with "ILLEGAL MODE FOR THIS TRACK (056400)" error on any discs burned by the BENQ itself, discs burned by other drives, or pressed discs despite burning discs well.

Lessons Learned

  • Check what the minimum and maximum speed that the media (disc) reports, and burn at the minimum the media (NOT DRIVE) supports.
  • Cross-check Disc Quality scans with multiple drives to make sure the drive isn't the issue. The optiarc here appears to be bad.