This page will show you a "basic" RGB bypass for the Neo Geo AES console that eliminates the Sony CXA amp and sends RGBS video (at the proper voltages) directly from the NG's digital-to-analog-converter, to the multi-out. The method shown here will work on any Neo Geo revision, but care must be taken when deciding what points to solder to as the traces change between revisions. It's been long discussed that some Neo Geo units output better RGB video than others. While that's true, all AES' can have a fairly simple RGB bypass performed that gets the best out of the built-in DAC. That means you can make every revision AES look identical, regardless of serial number. This modification is also strongly recommended if you plan on feeding RGB output to any RetroTink device.
This page will show you a "basic" bypass for the Neo Geo AES console that eliminates the Sony CXA amp and sends video (at the proper voltage) directly from the NG's digital-to-analog-converter, to the multi-out. This was tested on the worst revision Neo-Geo, the 3-6, however it should work on other revisions.
It's been long discussed that some Neo Geo's output better RGB video than others. While that's true, all AES' can have a fairly simple RGB bypass performed that gets the best out of the built-in DAC. That means you can make every revision AES look identical, regardless of serial number, including and especially the notorious 3-6 revision motherboard.
== Installation ==
==== Tools Needed: ====
The images in this guide show the process for the 3-6 revision of the Neo Geo. But care must be taken when doing this on other systems.
* 470uF 16V electrolytic capacitor(s) (220uF to 470uF are valid ranges if you don't have 470uF)
* Desoldering gun not necessary, but might make it easier
* Desoldering gun not necessary, but might make it easier
Access full-sized pictures in this guide, simply by clicking each one!
=== Disassembly ===
# Remove the screws on the bottom of the AES. There are three under the marked footpads in the image below. Please note that the screws are different sizes, so make sure to mark where each goes!
#: [[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_Bottom.jpg|600px]]
#* Unfortunately, due to the age of these footpads, they'll most likely break. If you get lucky, you can peel them back just enough to get your screwdriver in, but expect to accidentally break at least one:
#: [[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_Footpads.jpg|500px]]
# After removing the top plastic cover, remove the following screws from the motherboard.
# Remove the reset button and power switch, then carefully lift the motherboard out of the bottom case.
=== AV Connector output===
You can refer to the AV connector pinout (as documented Neo Geo [https://wiki.neogeodev.org/index.php?title=Pinouts Dev wiki]) to validate the pinout. All Neo Geo consoles should use the same 8 pin DIN for AV output. Newer consoles connect the composite video and CSYNC pins together and only output composite video. For optimal RGB output, this mod will also do a CSYNC restore on these consoles.
===Neo Geo RGB Amp===
The Neo Geo AES uses the CXA1145 RGB amp. More information about this amp, and more importantly, the pinout can be found [https://wiki.console5.com/wiki/CXA1145 here]. Refer to the pinout when reviewing the rest of the modification below.
===RGB Bypass===
Here's a quick overview of the entire mod you'll be doing, as seen from both the top and underside of the console. This is a rev 3-5 PCB but yours will be very similar. Click on the images to see a bigger image with more details.
[[File:Top.png|none|thumb|800x800px]]
[[File:Bottom.png|none|thumb|800x800px]]
The traces going between the stock RGB amp (CXA1145) and the AV output port might differ between releases, but the pinout on the amp is the same. The instructions shown here are more focused on 3-5/3-6 PCBs but they can easily be modified to work with older Neo Geo AES PCB revisions once the basic concept is understood. The 2 most confusing parts are where you pickup the RGB signals for the output and how to handle composite video and CSYNC.
#Verify that the RGB and composite video capacitors on to the top side of the motherboard are 470uF 16V capacitors. If they are not, replaced them. (they are the 4 with the hot glue in the image)
#On the underside, cut the trace going between the positive pin of the 4 capacitors and the corresponding RGB and composite video pins of the CXA1145 amp (pins 23,22,21 and 20).
#Remove the 3 resistors that sit between the RGB capacitors and multiAV port. On 3-5/3-6 systems, these will be 75 ohm resistors. On older AES PCBs, these will be 68 ohm. If your system uses 68 ohm resistors, remove all 5 of them (3 for RGB, 1 for CSYNC, 1 for composite video) You can easily tell what resistor does what by using a multimeter between one of the resistor legs and the AV port in the back in diode or continuity mode.
#Install 3 150 ohm resistors where the old RGB resistors were that you just removed. If you also removed 68 ohm resistors that used to be composite video and csync, replace them with 75 ohm resistor(s).
#Next is the most confusing part of the RGB mod as it is dependent on what AES revision you have, and every revision is slightly different. You need to connect the RGB signals from the DAC to the positive side of the capacitors from step 1 above. This is where the RGB signals is fed back to the AV output connector, bypassing the CXA1145. In the image above, you can see how we determined the RGB spots. Do the same on your PCB, start at the RGB input pins on the CXA1145 and work backwards until you reach the DAC. Solder wire from the RGB-DAC pins to the positive pin of the 470uF capacitor that corresponds to that color. Repeat this for all 3 RGB lines.
==== Disassembly ====
===CSYNC Restore===
On newer AES PCBs, CSYNC and composite video is connected together and only composite video signal is output on both pins of the AV connector. You need to see if that's the case on your PCB and cut the trace that connects them (see example above showing this) Now that the signals are separate, it's time to restore the CSYNC signal. The assumption here is that you know what is the CSYNC output pin (see image above) and there's already a 75 ohm resistor connecting to it, and it connects to a 470uF capacitor which currently has it's positive leg disconnected from the CXA1145.
#Start by removing the two screws on the bottom of the AES. Please note that these are different sizes, so make sure to mark where each goes! Also, carefully try to lift the three footpads marked here to expose the other screws; There's no screw under the unmarked 4th pad. <br> [[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_Bottom-300x169.jpg]]
#Restore the CSYNC signal by connecting a wire from pin 10 of the CXA1145 chip to the positive pin of the CSYNC 470uF capacitor. If you did this correctly, you'll have CXA1145 pin 10 -> wire -> 470uF capacitor -> 75 ohm resistor -> AV port.
#Unfortunately, due to the age of these footpads, they'll most likely break.If you get lucky, you can peel them back just enough to get your screwdriver in, but expect to accidentally break at least one: <br> [[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_Footpads-300x129.jpg]]
#After removing the top plastic cover, remove the following screws. Once done, remove the reset button and power switch, then carefully lift the motherboard out of the bottom case. <br> [[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_MotherboardScrews-1024x767.jpg]]
===Composite Video Restore===
On older AES PCBs, there should be 1 more capacitor and resistor left for composite video. Confirm that the capacitor is 470uF and the resistor is 75 ohm. The positive leg of this capacitor should be connected to pin 20 of the CXA1145. If you have a newer AES PCB, you must build this circuit to handle composite video. The best spot to do this is right on top of the CXA1145.
==== RGB Bypass ====
#Connect the positive leg of a 470uF 16V capacitor to pin 20 of the CXA1145
#Connect a 75 ohm resistor to the negative leg of this capacitor
#Run wire from the other side of the 75 ohm resistor to the ferrite bead that connects to the composite video output pin of the AV port
#Now you'll need to remove six components located in the top-left of the motherboard, next to the A/V out port: Three resistors and three capacitors.The ideal way to remove them is with a desoldering gun, however if you're careful, you can use a soldering iron and some tweezers, or even snip them out with cutters (please be careful with cutters!): <br> [[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_TopMotherboard-1024x787.jpg]] <br> [[File:NeoGeoAES3-6 RemoveRGBcomponents-1024x817.jpg]]
=== End Result ===
#That area should now look like this: <br> [[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_RemovedRGBcomponents-1024x737.jpg]]
Congrats. You're done. The CXA1145 RGB amp is now bypassed for RGBS but is still used for composite video generation. Your Neo Geo PCB should look like something similar to the image below. You can use a Sega Genesis 1 AV cable to test composite video output.
#Now, flip the motherboard over and locate the area near the A/V Multi-out; The upper right of this picture: <br>[[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_MotherboardBottom-1024x748.jpg]]
#You'll need to connect each of the following points with a 150Ohm resistor (technique, tips & more explanation below): <br>[[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_RGBpointsBefore-1024x801.jpg]]
#Use the resistor itself to make the connection, with no wire: trim one end of the resistor and solder it to the bottom pins. Then measure and position the resistor with the connection points on the multi-out (top pins) and trim to size. Start with #1 in the above picture, as that's the only one that needs a bend in the routing; The rest are strait shots. Next add the heatshrink tubing. Then solder the top connection in place. Lastly, add some heat to shrink the tubing down for a nice connection. <br> [[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_RGBpointsAfter-1024x740.jpg]]
Here's a few other items you can tackle while you're here:
==== Sync Isolation ====
# Plug headphones to the front audio port. Load the 240p test suite (if you have a multicart that allows you to run it) and validate the stereo output. Some 3-6 PCBs have LEFT/RIGHT reversed.
# Cut the centre post of the top plastic shell off! Any pressure on the top lid will cause that post to go right through the PCB. It serves no purpose beyond a disaster waiting to happen.
#Important note: This mod may not be needed at all on other revision AES consoles. Technically, this isn't "needed" on the 3-6's either, but it's strongly recommended to do it. You'll get a cleaner signal at a better voltage.
[[File:Bottom after.png|none|thumb|600x600px]]
#Start by connecting a wire to the bottom of pin 11 (csync-out) of the Sony CXA. Then, run that wire through one of the existing holes of a capacitor you previously removed. DO NOT SOLDER TO THE HOLE!!! Simply push the wire through to the other side! <br> [[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_CXAsync-1024x596.jpg]]
[[File:Top after.png|none|thumb|600x600px]]
#Next, carefully snip the positive input leg of the following capacitor and carefully rotate it. If you have a desoldering iron, it would be much better to desolder the whole cap, rotate it and solder the negative side back in place: <br>[[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_CompositeVideoCap-1024x599.jpg]]
#Lastly, solder the wire that you ran through the hole, to the positive input side of the capacitor you just rotated. Then snip any excess. <br> [[File:NeoGeoAES3-6_CompositeVideoCapCsync-1024x635.jpg]]
Latest revision as of 01:34, 9 October 2024
This page will show you a "basic" RGB bypass for the Neo Geo AES console that eliminates the Sony CXA amp and sends RGBS video (at the proper voltages) directly from the NG's digital-to-analog-converter, to the multi-out. The method shown here will work on any Neo Geo revision, but care must be taken when deciding what points to solder to as the traces change between revisions. It's been long discussed that some Neo Geo units output better RGB video than others. While that's true, all AES' can have a fairly simple RGB bypass performed that gets the best out of the built-in DAC. That means you can make every revision AES look identical, regardless of serial number. This modification is also strongly recommended if you plan on feeding RGB output to any RetroTink device.
470uF 16V electrolytic capacitor(s) (220uF to 470uF are valid ranges if you don't have 470uF)
Desoldering gun not necessary, but might make it easier
Disassembly
Remove the screws on the bottom of the AES. There are three under the marked footpads in the image below. Please note that the screws are different sizes, so make sure to mark where each goes!
Unfortunately, due to the age of these footpads, they'll most likely break. If you get lucky, you can peel them back just enough to get your screwdriver in, but expect to accidentally break at least one:
After removing the top plastic cover, remove the following screws from the motherboard.
Remove the reset button and power switch, then carefully lift the motherboard out of the bottom case.
AV Connector output
You can refer to the AV connector pinout (as documented Neo Geo Dev wiki) to validate the pinout. All Neo Geo consoles should use the same 8 pin DIN for AV output. Newer consoles connect the composite video and CSYNC pins together and only output composite video. For optimal RGB output, this mod will also do a CSYNC restore on these consoles.
Neo Geo RGB Amp
The Neo Geo AES uses the CXA1145 RGB amp. More information about this amp, and more importantly, the pinout can be found here. Refer to the pinout when reviewing the rest of the modification below.
RGB Bypass
Here's a quick overview of the entire mod you'll be doing, as seen from both the top and underside of the console. This is a rev 3-5 PCB but yours will be very similar. Click on the images to see a bigger image with more details.
The traces going between the stock RGB amp (CXA1145) and the AV output port might differ between releases, but the pinout on the amp is the same. The instructions shown here are more focused on 3-5/3-6 PCBs but they can easily be modified to work with older Neo Geo AES PCB revisions once the basic concept is understood. The 2 most confusing parts are where you pickup the RGB signals for the output and how to handle composite video and CSYNC.
Verify that the RGB and composite video capacitors on to the top side of the motherboard are 470uF 16V capacitors. If they are not, replaced them. (they are the 4 with the hot glue in the image)
On the underside, cut the trace going between the positive pin of the 4 capacitors and the corresponding RGB and composite video pins of the CXA1145 amp (pins 23,22,21 and 20).
Remove the 3 resistors that sit between the RGB capacitors and multiAV port. On 3-5/3-6 systems, these will be 75 ohm resistors. On older AES PCBs, these will be 68 ohm. If your system uses 68 ohm resistors, remove all 5 of them (3 for RGB, 1 for CSYNC, 1 for composite video) You can easily tell what resistor does what by using a multimeter between one of the resistor legs and the AV port in the back in diode or continuity mode.
Install 3 150 ohm resistors where the old RGB resistors were that you just removed. If you also removed 68 ohm resistors that used to be composite video and csync, replace them with 75 ohm resistor(s).
Next is the most confusing part of the RGB mod as it is dependent on what AES revision you have, and every revision is slightly different. You need to connect the RGB signals from the DAC to the positive side of the capacitors from step 1 above. This is where the RGB signals is fed back to the AV output connector, bypassing the CXA1145. In the image above, you can see how we determined the RGB spots. Do the same on your PCB, start at the RGB input pins on the CXA1145 and work backwards until you reach the DAC. Solder wire from the RGB-DAC pins to the positive pin of the 470uF capacitor that corresponds to that color. Repeat this for all 3 RGB lines.
CSYNC Restore
On newer AES PCBs, CSYNC and composite video is connected together and only composite video signal is output on both pins of the AV connector. You need to see if that's the case on your PCB and cut the trace that connects them (see example above showing this) Now that the signals are separate, it's time to restore the CSYNC signal. The assumption here is that you know what is the CSYNC output pin (see image above) and there's already a 75 ohm resistor connecting to it, and it connects to a 470uF capacitor which currently has it's positive leg disconnected from the CXA1145.
Restore the CSYNC signal by connecting a wire from pin 10 of the CXA1145 chip to the positive pin of the CSYNC 470uF capacitor. If you did this correctly, you'll have CXA1145 pin 10 -> wire -> 470uF capacitor -> 75 ohm resistor -> AV port.
Composite Video Restore
On older AES PCBs, there should be 1 more capacitor and resistor left for composite video. Confirm that the capacitor is 470uF and the resistor is 75 ohm. The positive leg of this capacitor should be connected to pin 20 of the CXA1145. If you have a newer AES PCB, you must build this circuit to handle composite video. The best spot to do this is right on top of the CXA1145.
Connect the positive leg of a 470uF 16V capacitor to pin 20 of the CXA1145
Connect a 75 ohm resistor to the negative leg of this capacitor
Run wire from the other side of the 75 ohm resistor to the ferrite bead that connects to the composite video output pin of the AV port
End Result
Congrats. You're done. The CXA1145 RGB amp is now bypassed for RGBS but is still used for composite video generation. Your Neo Geo PCB should look like something similar to the image below. You can use a Sega Genesis 1 AV cable to test composite video output.
Here's a few other items you can tackle while you're here:
Plug headphones to the front audio port. Load the 240p test suite (if you have a multicart that allows you to run it) and validate the stereo output. Some 3-6 PCBs have LEFT/RIGHT reversed.
Cut the centre post of the top plastic shell off! Any pressure on the top lid will cause that post to go right through the PCB. It serves no purpose beyond a disaster waiting to happen.
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