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{{Warning | The cable that connects to the 32X must ''not'' have the 5v pin connected! If it is, you can seriously damage the 32X, Genesis or both!}} | |||
[[File:32xpage00.jpg|thumb|32X]] | |||
The 32X has the same video output port as the Genesis 2, 3 and CDX. To get RGB from it, simply use the same RGB cable you'd use with a Genesis 2. | |||
== 32X with Genesis 2 / CDX == | |||
If you're using a CDX, Genesis 2, or any compatible Genesis console with a Genesis 2-style multi-out, you can attach the 32X with the standard male-to-male Genesis 2 patch cable that it originally came with. You can buy a replacement here if needed and if you decide to make your own, make sure to ''not'' connect the 5v pin in the cable!: | |||
** | [https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sega/32x/32X-TO-MEGADRIVE-2-PATCH-LINK-PACKAPUNCH-RGB-CABLE **Standard 32X patch cable**] | ||
[[File: | [[File:32xStandardCable.jpg|frame|none|Standard 32X patch cable]] | ||
== 32X with Genesis 1 == | |||
If you have a Genesis 1, it is a bit more complicated. Unlike other models of the Genesis, the Genesis 1 does not use the same type of cables as the 32X, and you may not want your 32X to be plugged in 100% of the time: | |||
* Maybe you sometimes want to use the Power Base Converter. | |||
* Maybe you'll sometimes play Virtua Racing (it's not compatible with the 32X). | |||
* You may only want to plug the 32X in when you're actually playing 32X games. | |||
=== Genesis 1 to Genesis 2 Adapter === | |||
If you don't intend to have your 32X plugged in all the time, the easiest solution, is to get two patch cables: The standard 32X patch cable listed above and a Genesis 1 Male-to-Genesis 2 Female adapter. This cable essentially turns your Genesis 1 output into a Genesis 2 output, allowing you (in conjunction with the standard 32X patch cable) to use the same RGB cable for both. This will allow you to use the same RGB cable directly with the Genesis 1 as with the 32X. Below on the left is one with a 3.5mm audio cable that allows you to connect stereo audio and on the right is one styled like the original. | |||
<gallery widths=300px heights=200px> | |||
File:32xpage04.jpg|Gen 1 to Gen 2 Patch Cable with 3.5mm Audio cable | |||
File:Gen1toGen2HDRetrovision.jpg|Gen 1 to Gen 2 Patch Cable | |||
</gallery> | |||
[https:// | [https://retro-access.com/products/female-sega-genesis-megadrive-stereo Gen 1 to Gen 2 Patch Cable with 3.5mm Audio cable] (US Seller) | ||
[ | [https://castlemaniagames.com/products/hd-retrovision-model-1-genesis-a-v-port-adapter-adapter-for-genesis-2-cable Gen 1 to Gen 2 Mono Cable] (this can also allow the Sega Master System to be used with a Genesis 2 RGB cable) | ||
[https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/32X-PATCH-CABLE-WITH-FEMALE-9-PIN-DIN Gen 1 to Gen 2 Patch Cable with 3.5mm Audio cable] (UK Seller, won't work with HD Retrovision or RAD2x) | |||
Here's how it works: | |||
[https:// | [[File:32xpage03.jpg|frame|none|The 32X originally came with two video cables: One lead that goes from the output of the Genesis 2 or CDX to the input of the 32X and a second adapter that allows you to plug it into a Genesis 1 (if you're missing the main lead, [https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sega/32x here's the replacement]). The second adapter plugs into the original lead, but unfortunately only transfers mono sound, since the Genesis 1 A/V port didn't include stereo out.]] | ||
[ | [[File:32xPage05.jpg|frame|none|The custom cable would replace the second adapter that the 32X came with and would be plugged into your Genesis at all times. When just using the Genesis, the Genesis 2 RGB cable plugs directly into the custom cable.]] | ||
[ | [[File:32xPage06.jpg|frame|none|When using the 32X, you'd replace the RGB cable with the 32X lead, then plug the RGB cable into the 32X.]] | ||
[[File: | [[File:32xPage07.jpg|frame|none|Also, the audio cable attached to it allows you to route stereo sound through the RGB cable (and 32X). This will work perfect with both the front headphone audio output, as well as the rear, should you choose to perform the Model 1 Stereo Audio Mod.]] | ||
=== Genesis 1 to 32X Patch Cable === | |||
Alternatively, you can just make or buy one cable that directly connects the Genesis 1 to the 32X (although if you make your own, do not connect the 5v pin!), but if you use one of these cables, you'll have to buy a second RGB cable for when you're only using the Genesis without the 32X. | |||
[https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sega/32x/Sega-32X-PATCH-CABLE-PACKAPUNCH-PRO Gen 1 to Gen 2 Patch Cable with 3.5mm Audio cable] (UK Seller) | |||
[https://retro-access.com/products/female-sega-genesis-megadrive-stereo-patch-cable-link-adaptor-us-seller Female Gen 1 to Gen 2 Stereo Patch Cable] (US Seller) | |||
[https:// | [https://retro-access.com/products/sega-genesis-1-megadrive-stereo-32x-patch-cable-link-adaptor-us-seller Genesis 1 to 32X Direct Cable (Stereo Audio)](US Seller) | ||
[ | [[File:Gen1to32xDirectCable.jpg|frame|none|Gen 1 to 32X Direct Cable]] | ||
== 32X Patch Cable Wiring Issues (Technical Info) == | |||
[[File:32xAVDiagram.png|thumb|32X AV Diagram]] | |||
Here's an ''extremely'' important notice to people making their own 32X cables: The cable that connects to the 32X must ''not'' have the 5v pin connected! If it is, you can seriously damage the 32X, Genesis or both! This includes pretty much every type of 32x patch cable, except the ones the have the female inputs (since those require a second patch cable). Said differently: | |||
* | * If the patch ''doesn't'' connect to the 32X (like the ones with the female Gen 2 port), connect ''all'' pins. | ||
* Any 32X patch cable that ''does'' connect to the 32X must ''not'' have the 5v pin wired! | |||
Ste from [http://www.hdretrovision.com/ HDRetrovision] offered more technical insight into this: | Ste from [http://www.hdretrovision.com/ HDRetrovision] offered more technical insight into this: | ||
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If you look at the schematics of the 32X, it looks like they purposely kept the Genesis +5V from the cartridge slot and the internally generated +5V separate. The most noticeable reason it seems is to add power sequencing to the design. The 32X +5V is unable to turn on unless the Genesis +5V is present, which is what you want. | If you look at the schematics of the 32X, it looks like they purposely kept the Genesis +5V from the cartridge slot and the internally generated +5V separate. The most noticeable reason it seems is to add power sequencing to the design. The 32X +5V is unable to turn on unless the Genesis +5V is present, which is what you want. | ||
On the 32X PCB, the A/V output port (to the TV) uses the internal 32X +5V to supply that pin. You would think that the A/V input port would connect the +5V pin to the Genesis cartridge +5V, but it does not. It also connects that pin to the 32X's +5V. Therefore if you connect a patch cord containing the +5V Genesis pin, it will short to the 32X's +5V rail and possibly cause power sequencing issues or other issues messing with the 32X's voltage regulator by back-feeding it from the opposite direction. Below is a screengrab of the schematics that shows this more clearly. VCC is the 32X internal +5V rail. Avoid those 2220P things as they are just EMI filters so you can consider them shorts. | On the 32X PCB, the A/V output port (to the TV) uses the internal 32X +5V to supply that pin. You would think that the A/V input port would connect the +5V pin to the Genesis cartridge +5V, but it does not. It also connects that pin to the 32X's +5V. Therefore if you connect a patch cord containing the +5V Genesis pin, it will short to the 32X's +5V rail and possibly cause power sequencing issues or other issues messing with the 32X's voltage regulator by back-feeding it from the opposite direction. Below is a screengrab of the schematics that shows this more clearly. VCC is the 32X internal +5V rail. Avoid those 2220P things as they are just EMI filters so you can consider them shorts. | ||
== Summary == | |||
If you have use anything other then a Genesis 1, just use the standard 32X patch cable (remember, no 5v connection on those!) and a Genesis 2 RGB cable. If you have a Genesis 1, you should use the M-F patch cable that essentially turns your Gen 1 output into a Gen 2, then use the above two mentioned cables. |
Latest revision as of 15:12, 18 May 2022
The cable that connects to the 32X must not have the 5v pin connected! If it is, you can seriously damage the 32X, Genesis or both! |
The 32X has the same video output port as the Genesis 2, 3 and CDX. To get RGB from it, simply use the same RGB cable you'd use with a Genesis 2.
32X with Genesis 2 / CDX
If you're using a CDX, Genesis 2, or any compatible Genesis console with a Genesis 2-style multi-out, you can attach the 32X with the standard male-to-male Genesis 2 patch cable that it originally came with. You can buy a replacement here if needed and if you decide to make your own, make sure to not connect the 5v pin in the cable!:
32X with Genesis 1
If you have a Genesis 1, it is a bit more complicated. Unlike other models of the Genesis, the Genesis 1 does not use the same type of cables as the 32X, and you may not want your 32X to be plugged in 100% of the time:
- Maybe you sometimes want to use the Power Base Converter.
- Maybe you'll sometimes play Virtua Racing (it's not compatible with the 32X).
- You may only want to plug the 32X in when you're actually playing 32X games.
Genesis 1 to Genesis 2 Adapter
If you don't intend to have your 32X plugged in all the time, the easiest solution, is to get two patch cables: The standard 32X patch cable listed above and a Genesis 1 Male-to-Genesis 2 Female adapter. This cable essentially turns your Genesis 1 output into a Genesis 2 output, allowing you (in conjunction with the standard 32X patch cable) to use the same RGB cable for both. This will allow you to use the same RGB cable directly with the Genesis 1 as with the 32X. Below on the left is one with a 3.5mm audio cable that allows you to connect stereo audio and on the right is one styled like the original.
Gen 1 to Gen 2 Patch Cable with 3.5mm Audio cable (US Seller)
Gen 1 to Gen 2 Mono Cable (this can also allow the Sega Master System to be used with a Genesis 2 RGB cable)
Gen 1 to Gen 2 Patch Cable with 3.5mm Audio cable (UK Seller, won't work with HD Retrovision or RAD2x)
Here's how it works:
![](/wiki/images/a/a9/32xpage03.jpg)
Genesis 1 to 32X Patch Cable
Alternatively, you can just make or buy one cable that directly connects the Genesis 1 to the 32X (although if you make your own, do not connect the 5v pin!), but if you use one of these cables, you'll have to buy a second RGB cable for when you're only using the Genesis without the 32X.
Gen 1 to Gen 2 Patch Cable with 3.5mm Audio cable (UK Seller)
Female Gen 1 to Gen 2 Stereo Patch Cable (US Seller)
Genesis 1 to 32X Direct Cable (Stereo Audio)(US Seller)
32X Patch Cable Wiring Issues (Technical Info)
Here's an extremely important notice to people making their own 32X cables: The cable that connects to the 32X must not have the 5v pin connected! If it is, you can seriously damage the 32X, Genesis or both! This includes pretty much every type of 32x patch cable, except the ones the have the female inputs (since those require a second patch cable). Said differently:
- If the patch doesn't connect to the 32X (like the ones with the female Gen 2 port), connect all pins.
- Any 32X patch cable that does connect to the 32X must not have the 5v pin wired!
Ste from HDRetrovision offered more technical insight into this:
If you look at the schematics of the 32X, it looks like they purposely kept the Genesis +5V from the cartridge slot and the internally generated +5V separate. The most noticeable reason it seems is to add power sequencing to the design. The 32X +5V is unable to turn on unless the Genesis +5V is present, which is what you want.
On the 32X PCB, the A/V output port (to the TV) uses the internal 32X +5V to supply that pin. You would think that the A/V input port would connect the +5V pin to the Genesis cartridge +5V, but it does not. It also connects that pin to the 32X's +5V. Therefore if you connect a patch cord containing the +5V Genesis pin, it will short to the 32X's +5V rail and possibly cause power sequencing issues or other issues messing with the 32X's voltage regulator by back-feeding it from the opposite direction. Below is a screengrab of the schematics that shows this more clearly. VCC is the 32X internal +5V rail. Avoid those 2220P things as they are just EMI filters so you can consider them shorts.
Summary
If you have use anything other then a Genesis 1, just use the standard 32X patch cable (remember, no 5v connection on those!) and a Genesis 2 RGB cable. If you have a Genesis 1, you should use the M-F patch cable that essentially turns your Gen 1 output into a Gen 2, then use the above two mentioned cables.