Dreamcast:Dreamcast Model Differences: Difference between revisions
(Info I gathered on the Dreamcast VA2 as well as in-depth info on the manufacturers.) |
(Experimented & confirmed that VA2's parts can be replaced with VA1's parts for burned games & GDEMU. Also corrected other info and grammar elsewhere.) |
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These systems can be hard to find in America, and are definitely more common in Japan. Here, the motherboard runs hotter, warranting a more robust cooling solution. Some say they have a superior build quality. To identify, go to the bottom of the system; look for the “0” in the circle, to the left of the [NTSC | U] box on the sticker. | These systems can be hard to find in America, and are definitely more common in Japan. Here, the motherboard runs hotter, warranting a more robust cooling solution. Some say they have a superior build quality. To identify, go to the bottom of the system; look for the “0” in the circle, to the left of the [NTSC | U] box on the sticker. | ||
Playing burned games and GD-ROM emulator replacements on a VA0 have yielded mixed results for different users. This needs to be research more. | |||
==== “VA1” (1999-2000) ==== | ==== “VA1” (1999-2000) ==== | ||
The vast majority of NTSC-U Dreamcasts are of the VA1 revision. These can play burned | The vast majority of NTSC-U and PAL Dreamcasts are of the VA1 revision. These can play burned games and are capable of running GD-ROM emulator replacements. To identify, go to the bottom; look for the circled “1”, next to the NTSC-U code. | ||
====“VA2” (October-December 2000)==== | |||
Quite rare, but not as rare as the VA0s, although this is not confirmed. Here, the drive controller is now integrated with the board itself, using a ribbon cable to directly attach to the motherboard. With that, the VA2 uses an entirely different type of GD-ROM drive that is hard to find replacements for. The BIOS has also been changed to prevent the loading of MIL-CDs and burned games. To identify, go to the bottom, look for the circled “2” next to the NTSC-U code. | |||
The VA2's drive does not support playing burned games unless the console has a region free BIOS modification, or if the VA2 motherboard and drive (both of them) are replaced with those from a VA1's. A few VA2s can play burned games natively because the VA1's BIOS was used on some early VA2 batches. | |||
As of 2024 there is no GD-ROM emulator replacement for the VA2 models and their motherboards, regardless of the BIOS type. | |||
The only possible way for a VA2 to run a GD-ROM emulator or a VA1 drive (to play burned games) is to replace the VA2's motherboard with a VA1 motherboard. It has been confirmed by Al Balog that a VA1 motherboard will fit into a VA2 console shell, but the VA2's protective metal blocks the VA1 motherboard's GD-ROM slot, thus requiring the protective metal to be replaced with a VA1's metal. Alternatively, the VA2's metal can potentially be trimmed to make room for the GD-ROM slot, but it is risky considering the VA2's metal has two attached layers, making it thick to cut. The console shells and heatsink plates of the VA1's and VA2's are built exactly the same, which makes a motherboard swap possible. | |||
The VA2s are made in China (either WK or SA initials), being made from October to December 2000. | The VA2s are made in China (either WK or SA initials), being made from October to December 2000. This was the last Dreamcast batch before discontinuation was officially announced in 2001. | ||
== Manufacturer Information + Initials Guide == | ==Manufacturer Information + Initials Guide== | ||
North American Dreamcasts have initials on the bottom label of the machine, indicating the country it was made in and the manufacturer it originated from. Japanese Dreamcasts list the full name of the manufacturer with the country it was made in. PAL Dreamcasts don't have the manufacturer information on the bottom label, only the country of origin. | North American Dreamcasts have initials on the bottom label of the machine, indicating the country it was made in and the manufacturer it originated from. Japanese Dreamcasts list the full name of the manufacturer with the country it was made in. PAL Dreamcasts don't have the manufacturer information on the bottom label, only the country of origin. | ||
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https://web.archive.org/web/20240121210345/http://web.archive.org/screenshot/https://www.gamerlifestore.com/products/sega-dreamcast-console-model-2 (screenshot archive of the sales page the Model 2 parts & motherboard originally came from) | https://web.archive.org/web/20240121210345/http://web.archive.org/screenshot/https://www.gamerlifestore.com/products/sega-dreamcast-console-model-2 (screenshot archive of the sales page the Model 2 parts & motherboard originally came from) | ||
https://albalog.blog.hu/2024/01/24/va2_dreamcast_kiserlet (proof of it being possible to swap the VA2's components with VA1 components to run burned games and/or GDEMU) | |||
https://www.reddit.com/r/dreamcast/comments/emrbb0/psa_dreamcast_v2_does_play_burned_games/ (misleading title, but it is a case of someone having a VA2 natively play burned games) | |||
Revision as of 23:11, 24 January 2024
Page content & researching taken from io55.net's Dreamcast page with permission, in collaboration.
There is only one Dreamcast model, but three revisions are within it.
Models + Revisions
Models are arranged chronologically. Revisions are underneath their respective model.
Disclaimer for Japanese Dreamcasts only:
Japanese Dreamcasts have markings that are different than PAL or NTSC-U models. They don't have the typical number at the bottom with the circle around it denoting if it is a VA0, VA1 or VA2.
The best listing on the net currently explaining differences between Japanese models is located here. Ultimately the data plate on the BOTTOM of the Dreamcast is still the best spot to determine if it will work with a GD-ROM emulator but it is done differently than NTSC-U and PAL units.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210530160307/http://users.skynet.be/t_chan/dc/mylist.htm
“Dreamcast” (1998-2001)
The only model of this console. Up front are four controller ports, while the top has the drive, plus power & drive door buttons. The left side has nothing, and the right side has the large extension port, by default taken up by the Dreamcast’s 56k modem (which is removable). On the back is the AC out, AV out, the line/Ethernet port (depending on the peripheral installed in the extension port), and a serial port meant for link cables. There is nothing on the bottom except for the model number label and regulatory information. Later revisions have a supposedly better drive, but to the detriment of installing certain ODEs. All Dreamcasts have certain issues between the power supply board connection, but this can be fixed with just a clean, or a soldering/replacement job.
“VA0” (1998-1999)
These systems can be hard to find in America, and are definitely more common in Japan. Here, the motherboard runs hotter, warranting a more robust cooling solution. Some say they have a superior build quality. To identify, go to the bottom of the system; look for the “0” in the circle, to the left of the [NTSC | U] box on the sticker.
Playing burned games and GD-ROM emulator replacements on a VA0 have yielded mixed results for different users. This needs to be research more.
“VA1” (1999-2000)
The vast majority of NTSC-U and PAL Dreamcasts are of the VA1 revision. These can play burned games and are capable of running GD-ROM emulator replacements. To identify, go to the bottom; look for the circled “1”, next to the NTSC-U code.
“VA2” (October-December 2000)
Quite rare, but not as rare as the VA0s, although this is not confirmed. Here, the drive controller is now integrated with the board itself, using a ribbon cable to directly attach to the motherboard. With that, the VA2 uses an entirely different type of GD-ROM drive that is hard to find replacements for. The BIOS has also been changed to prevent the loading of MIL-CDs and burned games. To identify, go to the bottom, look for the circled “2” next to the NTSC-U code.
The VA2's drive does not support playing burned games unless the console has a region free BIOS modification, or if the VA2 motherboard and drive (both of them) are replaced with those from a VA1's. A few VA2s can play burned games natively because the VA1's BIOS was used on some early VA2 batches.
As of 2024 there is no GD-ROM emulator replacement for the VA2 models and their motherboards, regardless of the BIOS type.
The only possible way for a VA2 to run a GD-ROM emulator or a VA1 drive (to play burned games) is to replace the VA2's motherboard with a VA1 motherboard. It has been confirmed by Al Balog that a VA1 motherboard will fit into a VA2 console shell, but the VA2's protective metal blocks the VA1 motherboard's GD-ROM slot, thus requiring the protective metal to be replaced with a VA1's metal. Alternatively, the VA2's metal can potentially be trimmed to make room for the GD-ROM slot, but it is risky considering the VA2's metal has two attached layers, making it thick to cut. The console shells and heatsink plates of the VA1's and VA2's are built exactly the same, which makes a motherboard swap possible.
The VA2s are made in China (either WK or SA initials), being made from October to December 2000. This was the last Dreamcast batch before discontinuation was officially announced in 2001.
Manufacturer Information + Initials Guide
North American Dreamcasts have initials on the bottom label of the machine, indicating the country it was made in and the manufacturer it originated from. Japanese Dreamcasts list the full name of the manufacturer with the country it was made in. PAL Dreamcasts don't have the manufacturer information on the bottom label, only the country of origin.
WK: Made in China by Wong's Kong King Int'l (Holdings) Ltd. Manufactured VA0s, VA1s and VA2s. Only manufacturer that made the "SEGA Sports Edition" Dreamcast.
SA: Made in China, unknown manufacturer. Manufactured only VA2s.
SD: Made in Japan by Sanwa Denki Kogyo Co., Ltd. Manufactured VA0s and VA1s.
UD: Made in Japan by UGO DENSHI. Manufactured VA0s and VA1s.
AE: Made in Japan by ASAHI Electronics Co., Ltd. Manufactured VA0s and VA1s.
TK: Made in Japan by T. TKR. Manufactured VA0s and VA1s.
GS: Made in Indonesia, unknown manufacturer. Manufactured only VA1s.
References
https://dreamcast.wiki/MIL-CD_compatibility
https://www.reddit.com/r/dreamcast/comments/lfhr2z/great_dreamcast_hardware_revision_database/
https://www.reddit.com/r/dreamcast/comments/8zaxni/i_just_found_a_rev_0_ive_read_this_is_the_best/
https://gdemu.wordpress.com/details/dreamcast-details/
https://gametrog.com/sega-dreamcast-information-specs/
http://www.tankgirl.info/8bit/images/sega/dreamcast/modem.jpg (removed modem, reveals EXT)
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0049/8719/1386/products/image_ed7b0f8a-d94a-4749-9ca9-cca916f238f8_500x205.png (sticker on the bottom, showing the circled number for revision)
https://web.archive.org/web/20210518194534/users.skynet.be/t_chan/dc/mylist.htm (in-depth info about the manufacturers & Japanese manufacturer initials)
https://segaretro.org/WKK (WK on made in China batches means "Wong's Kong King")
https://web.archive.org/web/20240121210335/https://www.gamerlifestore.com/cdn/shop/products/[email protected]?v=1632769695 (picture of Model 2 parts, shows the Model 2 motherboard having an integrated drive controller & having a unique GD-ROM drive that attaches via ribbon cable)
https://web.archive.org/web/20240121210345/http://web.archive.org/screenshot/https://www.gamerlifestore.com/products/sega-dreamcast-console-model-2 (screenshot archive of the sales page the Model 2 parts & motherboard originally came from)
https://albalog.blog.hu/2024/01/24/va2_dreamcast_kiserlet (proof of it being possible to swap the VA2's components with VA1 components to run burned games and/or GDEMU)
https://www.reddit.com/r/dreamcast/comments/emrbb0/psa_dreamcast_v2_does_play_burned_games/ (misleading title, but it is a case of someone having a VA2 natively play burned games)